CJL Co-Directors Appear on “KickBack: The Global Anticorruption Podcast”

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3 Mar 2021

Social Norms Approaches to Anti-Corruption

Our co-directors, Cheyanne Scharbatke-Church and Diana Chigas were recently interviewed by Matthew Stephenson for KickBack: The Global Anticorruption Podcast managed by the Interdisciplinary Corruption Research Network.


This podcast gives you an insight into what drove Cheyanne and Diana to focus on corruption after spending decades working on peacebuilding interventions. The conversation then dives into what prompted CJL’s journey into the world of social norms and how we are working on developing approaches, tools, and materials to address social norms that influence corrupt behavior.

You can listen to this episode on Kickback from any of the following platforms:


Spotify: Cheyanne Scharbatke-Church and Diana Chigas on social norms approaches to corruption

Soundcloud: Cheyanne Scharbatke-Church and Diana Chigas on social norms approaches to corruption

Apple Podcast: Cheyanne Scharbatke-Church and Diana Chigas on social norms approaches to corruption


We would like to thank the team at ICRN and KickBack for inviting us and giving us the opportunity of speaking about our mission at CJL.